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		<title>The Idea Camp Challenge</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m throwing out a challenge to the leadership and community from The Idea Camp. It&#8217;s more so an expression of a long-term idea rather than an actual challenge. A bunch of us have stayed connected and formed a tribe of sorts stemming from attendance at the very first The Idea Camp back in February 2009 [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Picture-12.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1333" title="Picture 12" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Picture-12-300x257.png" alt="" width="300" height="257" /></a>I&#8217;m throwing out a challenge to the leadership and community from <a href="http://theideacamp.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a>. It&#8217;s more so an expression of a long-term <em>idea</em> rather than an actual challenge.</p>
<p>A bunch of us have stayed connected and formed a tribe of sorts stemming from attendance at the very first The Idea Camp back in February 2009 in Irvine, CA. We&#8217;ve stayed connected and helped encourage and support others, but we have yet to take an idea and collectively work together to see it happen. Of course, <a href="http://charlestlee.com" target="_blank">Charles Lee</a>&#8211;the creative force and facilitator of The Idea Camp&#8211;has seen his ideas come to life through hosting each event, but what about a ground level, grassroots, collaborative movement inspired by and carried out by our group, affectionately known as Idea Campers?</p>
<p>So, my challenge to my fellow Idea Campers at large is this: Let&#8217;s brainstorm some ideas and collectively pool together our talents and resources to see something come of it. Let&#8217;s take what we&#8217;ve professed as the DNA of The Idea Camp and do something with it!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not familiar with The Idea Camp yet, learn more and join in the community here:</p>
<p>website: <a href="http://theideacamp.com" target="_blank">http://theideacamp.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://theideacamp.com" target="_blank"></a>ning: <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">http://theideacamp.ning.com</a></p>
<p>twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/theideacamp" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/theideacamp</a></p>
<p>facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/theideacamp" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/theideacamp</a></p>
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		<title>My thoughts on The Idea Camp Pacific Northwest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having now attended The Idea Camp in Portland, OR (ICPNW) as well as the initial event in Irvine, CA I must say that the two events were very different&#8211;in a good way. While most of the people that were in Portland were not at the Irvine event, it was clear to see that social media, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Having now attended The Idea Camp in Portland, OR (ICPNW) as well as the initial event in Irvine, CA I must say that the two events were very different&#8211;in a good way. While most of the people that were in Portland were not at the Irvine event, it was clear to see that social media, technology, and networking were at play at ICPNW. There was kind of an interesting dynamic that took place with Asians seeming to congregate together and not interact much with the rest of the group. I&#8217;ve found that to happen far too often, and not just in faith-based communities. This was a bit discouraging as there were several conversation I overheard where people were discussing the whole Deadly Viper issue. Some were doing so in the form of gossip like, &#8220;Did you hear that deadlyviper.org got shutdown?&#8221; while others were talking about being confused by the whole incident. To have had the chance to cross cultural divides and just openly discuss that was something I had hoped to see happen, but in the end it never did.</p>
<p>Something that was really cool was having a chance to hear <a href="http://www.twitter.com/johnsowers" target="_blank">John Sowers</a>, president of <a href="http://thementoringproject.org" target="_blank">The Mentoring Project</a>, share his story and his passion for seeing younger generations find mentors within the local church. Having made an appointment to speak with a new friend named Kyle Reed&#8211;who is also passionate about the subject of mentors&#8211;when I returned from ICPNW was clearly more than just coincidence. I had a chance to share some of that experience with Kyle today.</p>
<p>One of the other key things I walked away with from The Idea Camp was that Portland is a city in transition. It&#8217;s changed both culturally and demographically since I visited there last about 15 years ago. It&#8217;s a smaller city than my hometown of Sacramento and there seems to be a greater presence of ministries and organizations committed to help the problem of the houseless (homeless), yet I saw many more examples of people on the streets in Portland in 2 days than I see in Sacramento in a month. There were people on the streets every few blocks, in all parts of town I visited&#8211;even in the largest mall in the city anchored by Nordstrom&#8217;s and Macy&#8217;s. That deeply affected me and I&#8217;m still processing through how that will shape my heart and actions. It alerted me to a lot of the pain and discomfort that my friend <a href="http://www.twitter.com/hardlnormal" target="_blank">Mark Horvath</a> of <a href="http://invisiblepeople.tv" target="_blank">invisiblepeople.tv</a> must experience being an activist to people on the streets 24 hours a day, 365 days per year. How Mark can keep pushing for change and seeking to connect people to reach out compassionately is an amazing thing. He is a voice to those who may otherwise not have a voice. I have a new perspective on his work and lifestyle and appreciate him even more and am more-honored to know that he is my friend.</p>
<p>With the overall theme of ICPNW being &#8220;Being Present With The City&#8221; I was convicted about my role in my own community and how at this point much of my ministry has been based on my words with less action than I&#8217;m comfortable with. It brought out inner emotions of my struggle with conveying a clear vision and connecting people to the city through it. It encouraged me to know that in Portland and other cities people have pursued the dream of seeing the local church thought of as part of the city (rather than an exclusive enclave for the privileged people God loves more than others). People like <a href="http://www.twitter.com/mlpayne" target="_blank">Matt Payne</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/brettaljets" target="_blank">Brett Aljets</a> whom lead churches well-connected with their local school districts and families. It is forcing me to re-think some things and to refine my goals. It&#8217;s causing me to be more about my actions rather than my words.</p>
<p>I got a chance to see a bit of a different perspective having had the opportunity to sit in on some of the leadership meetings preceding the event. It was a very organic process that begged to have more structure, yet obviously didn&#8217;t need it. Things flowed seamlessly, people knew their roles and fulfilled them well, there was a cohesiveness that was evident. The interaction that the team had hoped for was manifested with some great dialog and Q&amp;A taking place that should lead to ideas coming to fruition down the road. It was interesting to have a behind-the-scenes peek at ICPNW. I was so appreciative of having the chance to experience the freedom of seeing collaboration take place. Thank you <a href="http://www.twitter.com/charlestlee" target="_blank">Charles Lee</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/decart" target="_blank">Dawn Carter</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/gregrussinger" target="_blank">Greg Russinger</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jakeschwein" target="_blank">Jake Schwein</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/dennismiclau" target="_blank">Dennis Miclau</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jim_gray" target="_blank">Jim Gray</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/churchbartender" target="_blank">Michael Trent</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/beckymanning" target="_blank">Becky Manning</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/brettaljets" target="_blank">Brett Aljets</a> for welcoming me into the mix even though I wasn&#8217;t able to lend much&#8230;just watching you guys do your thing was a huge blessing!</p>
<p>Lastly, The Idea Camp for me has always been a place to meet new people and see how I might speak into their lives and connect them with others. As an introvert that has never really cared about networking, The Idea Camp has forever changed me in that regard. I cherish those opportunities I have to meet people I may have only known through online social media and look to see how our relationships can grow when we aren&#8217;t confined to tweeting in 140 character bursts or facebook messaging. I&#8217;m not one to drop names, but I was blown away at some of the people that came up to me and said hello or were open to converse with me. Some of these people have confirmed future connection times to pursue relationships and this has humbled me greatly. I had several examples of people tapping me on the shoulder (therefore, only seeing my back &amp; not able to make eye contact) only to find that when I turned around I was speechless because I had no clue why they would intentionally come say hello to me when there were other more-important people they could be talking to. I was even able to make a quick connection with someone behind the scenes at a large-scale leadership conference that was open to sharing their first-hand perspective on the events in contrast to my perspective of being kind of an anti-hyped-up-big-conference guy.</p>
<p>Unexpectedly I got quite a bit out of my time at The Idea Camp in Portland. What are some of the things you walked away with or experienced during your time there? I&#8217;d appreciate reading your perspective in the comments below :)</p>
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		<title>an impromptu interview about The Idea Camp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was asked to be interviewed regarding The Idea Camp and some of my experiences leading up to the session happening in Portland on 11/20-21. As it was an impromptu interview, I didn&#8217;t have to prepare my responses. One of the main points that&#8217;s missing in the interview has to do with the collaboration and [...]]]></description>
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<p>I was asked to be interviewed regarding The Idea Camp and some of my experiences leading up to the session happening in Portland on 11/20-21. As it was an impromptu interview, I didn&#8217;t have to prepare my responses.</p>
<p>One of the main points that&#8217;s missing in the interview has to do with the collaboration and creativity that went into the planning of the event. It was quite an interesting time having the privilege to sit in on some of the planning meetings via <a href="http://tokbox.com" target="_blank">tokbox</a>. The planning sessions were handled almost like one of the workshops at The Idea Camp. The facilitator of the meeting would throw out an issue for discussion and then everyone else would get creative with it. In some instances, ideas were vetoed by the group and dropped from the schedule. There was even one instance when some time in the schedule was trying to be filled, when someone mentioned it should just stay open and not structured beforehand. Have a couple of open mics in the room and let the attendees talk about what&#8217;s on their hearts and minds after having spent a little time at The Idea Camp. There is great power in collaboration and a freedom to be creative when encouraged by everyone else doing so.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really think of one thing I contributed that you&#8217;ll see when you attend The Idea Camp this weekend, but I am so appreciative of the experience and seeing people come together for a common cause and give of their time and efforts so willingly.</p>
<p>Here is the rest of the story:</p>
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<p>For those of you that won&#8217;t be attending, The Idea Camp will be streamed live. I&#8217;ll post the site for that on <a href="http://twitter.com/daveingland" target="_blank">twitter</a>, so if you&#8217;re not following me there, please add me: <a href="http://twitter.com/daveingland" target="_blank">@daveingland</a> or you can follow all the events at: <a href="http://twitter.com/theideacamp" target="_blank">@theideacamp</a></p>
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		<title>Why The Idea Camp?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As it&#8217;s almost time for the third The Idea Camp coming up in Portland, OR on 11/20-21, I have been reflecting back on my experiences from The Idea Camp I attended back in February. In an interview I did this morning with Charles Lee, the creator of The Idea Camp, I was reminded about the [...]]]></description>
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<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-939" title="idea-camp-avatar" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/idea-camp-avatar.gif" alt="idea-camp-avatar" width="134" height="129" />As it&#8217;s almost time for the third <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a> coming up in Portland, OR on 11/20-21, I have been reflecting back on my experiences from The Idea Camp I attended back in February. In an <a href="http://bit.ly/1IQhyS " target="_blank">interview</a> I did this morning with <a href="http://charlestlee.com" target="_blank">Charles Lee</a>, the creator of The Idea Camp, I was reminded about the networking aspect of the event. As someone who was new in ministry and unknown even in my city, The Idea Camp was a huge event for making lasting connections I never imagined I would have. I, as an introvert, was exposed to so many people that knew me before I even showed up that I couldn&#8217;t help but talk with them and share on the experience.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/daveingland" target="_blank">Twitter</a> was the tool that allowed me to make connections via my computer, but The Idea Camp was where I had to come out from the digital world and enter into relationships in-person. The Idea Camp was such a welcoming venue with a lot of caring, friendly and genuine people that it was easy to be someone I am not ordinarily&#8211;an extrovert.</p>
<p>While I remember and have been impacted by the Idea Sessions on church planting in suburban communities with a heart for urban areas, social networking and using technology in ministry, it is my relationships with people that have changed my life the most.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted on The Idea Camp several times on my blog, but being connected with the people I met there&#8211;even some I met via dialog on twitter, yet never met in-person&#8211;on a continual basis really makes me pause and reflect on the amazing things that happened as a result of my attending a free conference called The Idea Camp.</p>
<p>For those of us introverts that know we have to make a better effort to connect with others, The Idea Camp is a perfect place to do so. The focus isn&#8217;t on celebrity speakers, it&#8217;s on the attenders. You will be asked (not forced) to engage in discussions with a roomful of other attenders and share your insight as well as take away insight of others. You will have a chance to hear someone speak about something to the audience, yet walk up to them and ask them some follow up questions. The Idea Camp is a great place to learn from others, but it&#8217;s an even better place to see others learn from you. It&#8217;s a humbling experience, but one that changed my ministry and the way I look at conferences and networking. Thanks to The Idea Camp, I&#8217;ll never be the same.</p>
<p>Did you attend a previous The Idea Camp in Irvine, CA or Washington, D.C.? What were your experiences? Did you build lasting relationships as a result? Please share some of your impressions for the sake of those that may not be familiar with The Idea Camp or may be uncertain as to whether they should attend or not. Also, you can learn more by watching the interview I did with Charles Lee and reading the overview of the upcoming The Idea Camp <a href="http://bit.ly/1IQhyS " target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>PS. If you&#8217;d like to attend The Idea Camp in Portland, OR 11/20-21 for free, there is a link on the right sidebar where you can click-through to the registration page.</p>
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		<title>When I think of friends, I am reminded of&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2009/08/12/when-i-think-of-friends-i-am-reminded-of/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about my friendships recently. No matter what I do from today forward, to know that I have such supportive friends is truly a blessing. They aren&#8217;t my friends because they think church planting is chic. They are my friends because of who I am, not what I&#8217;ve done. When I [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about my friendships recently. No matter what I do from today forward, to know that I have such supportive friends is truly a blessing. They aren&#8217;t my friends because they think church planting is chic. They are my friends because of who I am, not what I&#8217;ve done.</p>
<p>When I think of my friends I am reminded of two things: 1) <a href="http://londeninstitute.com" target="_blank">seminary</a>; 2) <a href="http://theideacamp.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a>. Today I wanted to share a little bit about <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a>. For the many of you that follow me on <a href="http://www.twitter.com/daveingland" target="_blank">twitter</a> or are my friends on <a href="http://facebook.com/daveingland" target="_blank">facebook</a>, you&#8217;ll know how much of an impact the very first The Idea Camp back in February 2009 has had on me. I can&#8217;t seem to say enough about it. Well, it&#8217;s time for The Idea Camp to spread its wings and travel to the east coast August 28th &amp; 29th. Unfortunately, I won&#8217;t be attending this session which is being dubbed the &#8221; justice edition,&#8221; but I am eagerly anticipating the updates from my friends that will be there. So many unexpectedly positive things come about when creativity and collaboration intersect and The Idea Camp is a perfect example of this.</p>
<p>Have you ever attended a Christian/leadership conference and gotten all hyped-up about all that the speakers proclaimed into your life and the crazy-good music that was performed? Then, even with the best intentions,  you got home and everything sort of fizzled out a week later. As strange as this may sound, I have no idea what that is like as I have never gone to a ministry conference until my arrival at the first The Idea Camp back in February. That was six months ago and I still reflect back on that time and am amazed (and greatly humbled) at all of the relationships I am still actively involved in that came about from those two days back in February. As amazing as the interaction and discussions were at The Idea Camp last February, I experienced most of the meaningful aspects of the conference after I returned home.</p>
<ul> creativity + collaboration = meaningful relationships</ul>
<p>I have so many resources available as a result of The Idea Camp. Everyone that was there has made themselves available afterwards and have inspired and encouraged me to do my best and continue to be relational and relevant within this community. Most of my time on twitter is actually spent interacting with people I met during the first The Idea Camp. I&#8217;ve even since driven the 800+ miles round trip to the Los Angeles area three times since February to meetup with my The Idea Camp friends. I can only imagine what will happen as people converge in Washington DC in a couple of weeks to renew discussions and provide their insights into dialogs on compassion and justice.</p>
<p>The Idea Camp has presentations from some great minds and creative geniuses (of which I put <a href="http://charlestlee.com" target="_blank">Charles Lee</a>&#8211;the facilitator &amp; initiator of The Idea Camp&#8211;at the top of this list), but where it thrives is in the breakout sessions where leaders are asked to speak no more than a few minutes to introduce a subject and then open it up to free-flowing discussions from those in attendance. In essence, it&#8217;s not about the speakers&#8211;it&#8217;s all about you. Here&#8217;s how The Idea Camp is being officially described:</p>
<ul> The Idea Camp is a collaborative movement of idea-makers who facilitate free hybrid conferences and develop resources for people who desire to move ideas toward implementation. Facilitated by a growing collective of innovative thinkers and practitioners from numerous disciplines, participants gather around topics of interest to encourage and inspire one another, share practical wisdom from the field, and develop intentional networks for idea-making.</ul>
<p>What&#8217;s it take to be a part of this amazing open source collaboration? Just find a way to get there and then be prepared to listen, think, take notes, make (lots) of new friends, and jump into the conversations. The Idea Camp is provided to you free of charge. They just ask that you register in advance, which you can do by going to: <a href="http://theideacamp.com" target="_blank">http://theideacamp.com</a> and clicking on the &#8220;upcoming events&#8221; tab. If you&#8217;re anywhere within driving distance, make time for this conference! If you can afford to fly out, your time there on August 28th &amp; 29th will repay itself many times over. I can&#8217;t convey how valuable my time was in February and how important the relationships I made while I was there have been to me. I hope you&#8217;ll find a way to be there in Washington DC to learn more and offer input in regards to compassion &amp; justice ministries and take away some powerful words of wisdom, time of worship, and potentially life-long relationships. This is even before knowing the list of speakers scheduled to present, which will include some high-level talent eager to share what has been placed in their hearts with you! Which reminds me. Know why The Idea Camp is free for you? Mostly, it&#8217;s because the speakers (past presenters include: Erwin McManus, Dave Gibbons, David Ruis, Matthew Barnett) agree to come out at their own expense&#8230;they pay for their flights, hotel, food, etc and take no honorarium because they believe in giving back to you.</p>
<p>Thanks to Charles Lee and everyone that has invested their time, money, and effort to see this event continue!</p>
<p>Event: The Idea Camp: Justice Edition DC</p>
<p>Dates: August 28-29, 2009</p>
<p>Location: Mt. Olivet Methodist Church, 1500 N. Glebe Rd., Arlington, VA 22207</p>
<p>Number of organizations participating: 40+ (complete list at http://theideacamp.com)</p>
<p>For more information: <a href="http://theideacamp.com" target="_blank">http://theideacamp.com</a> &amp; <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">http://theideacamp.ning.com</a></p>
<p>Main contact: Charles Lee &#8211; <a href="mailto:charles@theideacamp.com">charles@theideacamp.com</a> or 310-995-1445</p>
<p><em>If after reading this you find that you can&#8217;t make it to The Idea Camp this time, would you please consider joining me in praying over the event, leaders, speakers, attenders, location, etc? There&#8217;s a lot going on to get ready beforehand and a ton of things happening during the event. </em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[For my participation in the Dave Gibbons&#8217; blog tour last week, I was given a copy of Dave&#8217;s new book The Monkey And The Fish: Liquid Leadership For A Third-Culture Church. Third-culture and the whole premise behind how Pastor Gibbons explains it has really spoken to me. I feel as if even though I feel [...]]]></description>
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<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-639" title="monkey-fish-parable" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/monkey-fish-parable.gif" alt="monkey-fish-parable" width="250" height="350" />For my participation in the <a href="http://www.daveingland.com/2009/03/05/dave-gibbons-blog-tour-stops-here/" target="_blank">Dave Gibbons&#8217; blog tour</a> last week, I was given a copy of Dave&#8217;s new book <a href="http://www.zondervan.com/Cultures/en-US/Product/ProductDetail.htm?ProdID=com.zondervan.9780310276029&amp;QueryStringSite=Zondervan" target="_blank"><em>The Monkey And The Fish: Liquid Leadership For A Third-Culture Church</em></a>. Third-culture and the whole premise behind how Pastor Gibbons explains it has really spoken to me. I feel as if even though I feel more American than Japanese (in a cultural context), some aspects of engaging in various cultures connects with something in my inner being. At the heart of my soul I feel a kind of oneness with everyone. It&#8217;s as if I&#8217;m cross-cultural and multi-generational.</p>
<p>So, I eagerly sat down to read the book last night and felt a little disappointed. I wasn&#8217;t particularly fond of the writing style and felt as if Dave shared too many different voices in this book. Funny thing happens when I approach things like this with my own set of expectations. God always seems to hit me upside-the-head and show me the error of my ways. The more I read, the more it exposed questions I had. The more I wondered if the church is ready for this kind of culture shift. Finally, I realized what I believe the blessing of <em>The Monkey And The Fish</em> is going to be. I will be using it as a catalyst to facilitate conversation and deep thought within our core group of <a href="http://revsacramento.com" target="_blank">Revolution Church Sacramento</a> as we prepare to gather for the first time tomorrow night. A lot of things I had thought of, but probably couldn&#8217;t quite express verbally or as concisely are presented in every chapter of Dave&#8217;s book. This is going to be a great tool that can be used to help us find our mission and do our part to embrace the third-culture concepts in a way that not only speaks to each of us in the church, but also causes us to be relevant to our community. As my friend <a href="http://charlestlee.com">Charles T Lee</a> commented in an online chat last night, &#8220;<a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a> will never end.&#8221; How true (possibly prophetic) that statement really was!</p>
<p>My analytical, orderly mind saw randomness and too much input from other people in this book, but my creative aspect caused me to wonder &#8220;what if?&#8221; and to just listen and hear others speak to this and let Dave&#8217;s thoughts speak to them&#8230;to let Dave&#8217;s thoughts speak to me. Tomorrow is going to be a good night&#8230;a memorable night&#8230;a historic step forward for our community. I can&#8217;t wait!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>One of the things I wanted to do at <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a> was to get some ideas on networking. I&#8217;ve done a lot of networking in the past for gaining business clients, but never really networked much to gain resources. As I&#8217;ve mentioned on this blog before, I am not much of a social person. In fact, I&#8217;m pretty introverted normally. So, The Idea Camp was a place I could push my limits a bit.</p>
<p><a href="http://djchuang.com" target="_blank">DJ Chuang</a> has really helped me gain an understanding on networking. He is more than a follower on twitter or a friend on facebook, but he truly gets how to build relationships. Obviously <a href="http://charlestlee.com" target="_blank">Charles T. Lee</a> gets networking as well since in his interview with me he revealed that he knew most of the facilitators prior to hosting The Idea Camp.</p>
<p>Anyone can jump on twitter and just follow thousands of people and get reciprocal followers and look like they have a lot of influence, but that really isn&#8217;t networking. It&#8217;s more like broadcasting.</p>
<p>What sets DJ &amp; Charles apart from the crowd? It&#8217;s their willingness to listen and then try to help others network as well. It&#8217;s their interest in the individual that matters. I remember once how DJ Chuang first came into my life through following my youtube channel. Then, by my following his blog I sent him an email which then turned into a phone call, which then turned into a tweetup at The Idea Camp, which then became a bond between us. I consider DJ a friend now. With Charles, I remember tweeting about how I really wanted to get to The Idea Camp, but wasn&#8217;t sure I could get coverage for an event that was happening that Friday night which I led every month, nor was I sure I could afford the travel. Every time Charles would just tweet back, &#8220;Just commit to come down. You won&#8217;t be disappointed.&#8221; Honestly, I don&#8217;t think anyone would have missed me if I had not gone to The Idea Camp. However, Charles made me feel like I was important. He cared about me and my presence. Now that I know Charles a little more, I am compelled to stay in touch just so I can see how I can help him with his causes and ministry and continue learning from him and reciprocating the love any way possible.</p>
<p>In the end, the art of networking isn&#8217;t about the network, but it is about you. What are you trying to gain from networking and how do you choose who to network with? Having 123,830 twitter followers does not make  you a networker, it generally  you a twitter whore. Better to have 50 people in a sphere of influence where community and lasting relationships are developed then to be the rockstar of the twitter community. Do you care about relationships, or just how many people know who you are?</p>
<p>Thanks to DJ Chuang and Charles T. Lee, I feel blessed and priviledged to sense their caring and kindness to a nobody like me that at one time felt lost in the world of networking, but now feel like I have learned how to do it properly and responsibly. The Idea Camp made this a reality for me.</p>
<p>How do you network and why? Would appreciate your comments.</p>
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<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-612" title="social-media-tech" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/social-media-tech.jpg" alt="social-media-tech" width="250" height="178" />One of the things I was really looking forward to at <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a> was a chance to hear people bouncing ideas off of each other, especially in the area of merging technology with the church. In the end, not a lot of ideas were really opened up, but many people came with lots of questions. In particular, the questions were about technology and social media.</p>
<p>It seems that people are hearing about twitter, yet not quite understanding it. It seems some are hearing about facebook, but not quite getting it. Unfortunately, I truly believe that if we don&#8217;t keep up with the pace of tech and social media we will get left behind. Some are willing to let the rest of the world pass them by.</p>
<p>I must admit that as technology oriented as some people think I am, I am really behind the times. I started with myspace and didn&#8217;t like it, but found that the kids in my youth ministry wouldn&#8217;t return calls or emails, but would reply to myspace messages. Then I tried facebook about 2 years ago and hated it. It was so plain and everyone else&#8217;s page looked the same&#8230;it was homogeneous with no personality. However, I soon realized that once again, friends that wouldn&#8217;t respond to email or phone calls, were responding to facebook messages. So, I adapted and have learned to like facebook because it is convenient and I can update through my cell phone while on the go. Next came twitter, which was just so boring and voyeuristic. I signed on with twitter July 31, 2008 and after barely breaking 100 followers last December, I now have over 770&#8211;an increase of about 670 followers in just the past two months. I&#8217;m not even really trying. It&#8217;s taking off like crazy with more new connections being made daily! These are people I wouldn&#8217;t ordinarily get to meet without a tool such as twitter.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-614" title="iphone-thumbnail" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iphone-thumbnail.jpg" alt="iphone-thumbnail" width="150" height="104" />At some point, with cell phones such as the iphone being able to do just about everything a notebook computer can do, email will be obsolete completely and even sms messaging could fall by the wayside as twitter and facebook take over.</p>
<p>As speakers were on the main stage, we in the live audience and all viewing the streaming webcast could use cell phones to text message the speakers with a question that would get answered. Programs and schedules were not printed and distributed online in advance of the gathering. Off-site meetings for lunch were coordinated via tweetups. It was quite a sight to see so many people moving along the conference halls knowing where they were going because they were plugged in.</p>
<p>The Idea Camp pro<a href="http://www.twitter.com/marcpayan" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-616" title="twitter-logo-thumbnail" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/twitter-logo-thumbnail.jpg" alt="twitter-logo-thumbnail" width="200" height="91" /></a>ved to me that I need to stay connected with others and continue to develop my networks. I got a chance to connect with several people that I had only known through twitter such as: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/charlestlee" target="_blank">@charlestlee</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/djchuang" target="_blank">@djchuang</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jonathanhochan" target="_blank">@jonathanhochan</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/cynthiaware" target="_blank">@cynthiaware</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/laurencetom" target="_blank">@laurencetom</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/marcpayan" target="_blank">@marcpayan</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/gregatkinson" target="_blank">@gregatkinson</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/scotthodge" target="_blank">@scotthodge</a>. Social networking facilitated conversation and connection, but I have to admit that meeting face-to-face really solidified these friendships. I am now a real face that had a chance to engage with them in dialog and vice-versa. Even some people that I had not connected with previously, but followed on twitter came up to me and introduced themselves such as <a href="http://www.twitter.com/joshchow" target="_blank">@joshchow</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/nellechang" target="_blank">@nellechang</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m learning a lot through my journey in social networking and using technology and new media.  have a funny feeling that we haven&#8217;t even scratched the surface yet and there are more exciting new ways to connect coming on the horizon. I&#8217;m looking to implement some of these technologies for open communication within our <a href="http://revsacramento.com" target="_blank">church plant</a> later this August.</p>
<p>Do you have any takeaways from The Idea Camp in regards to tech or social media? Maybe you have an interesting way you are implementing tech into your ministry? I&#8217;d appreciate seeing your ideas so please comment with them!</p>
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<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-594" title="charles-lee" src="http://www.daveingland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/charles-lee.jpg" alt="charles-lee" width="300" height="200" />After experiencing all there was at The Idea Camp, I realized that Charles Lee was everywhere. He seemed to have a million responsibilities, yet was always at peace with how things were going, fully focused and prepared. Remembering how things seemed to come together for this event so quickly, I wanted to pick Charles&#8217; brain and see if he&#8217;d share his thoughts on the process and the future of The Idea Camp. Just who is this superman and what caused him to faithfully see this event through? Charles was so gracious to reply and I am honored to be able to share his thoughts with you in a Q&amp;A session:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong> Q: What was the impetus that got you to take action for creating The Idea Camp?</strong></p>
<p>It was birthed out of a season of reading about the cultural shifts towards open-sourcing and crowd-sourcing. The basic premise was that the &#8220;crowd&#8221; is usually wiser, faster, and more innovative than structured leadership, especially in light of the growth of the internet. I began to think what these ideas would mean for people, businesses, organizations, and even the Church. In addition to these areas of impact, I began to consider the conference world; a world I had spent some time in as an organizer (both small and large).</p>
<p>I threw some of my inclinations about how conferences could possibly change to a handful of friends in that world. They had very little idea as to what I was up to, but they gave me great advice about the possibilities. During one of these meet ups, <a href="http://djchuang.com" target="_blank">DJ Chuang</a> turned me onto the notion of &#8220;unconferences&#8221; (i.e., self-organizing and self-run conferences where participants led the way). This is where my &#8220;hybrid&#8221; concept came in. I took the notion of an unconference and adpated it into our current format of conferences to create a unique experience called the Idea Camp. I then added elements that were eco-friendly (no printing), reproducible in format, technologically up-to-date, relationally-based, and simple to understand.</p>
<p><strong>Q: How long was it from the point of being an idea to becoming a reality on February 27th &amp; 28th?</strong></p>
<p>The idea was birth about 6 months prior, but the actual web-based movement really didn&#8217;t kick off until November &#8217;08.</p>
<p><strong>Q: Did you have personal relationships with all of the speakers/facilitators beforehand? If not, how difficult was it to approach someone new with the idea and get them to commit to participate?</strong></p>
<p>I had personal relationships with most of the speakers/facilitators beforehand (probably over 80%). There were some that signed on through friendships, but the majority were people I knew would do a great job given our past experiences together. In other words, it was not difficult at all to have people jump on board. Quite honestly, I was so humbled by the fact that many of them initiated involvement when they heard about it.</p>
<p><strong>Q: If you were to do The Idea Camp all over again, would you change anything in the process?</strong></p>
<p>I think I finally know what kind of individuals are needed to run an Idea Camp (if there is to be another one). For this first one, we really didn&#8217;t know which elements would work. Fortunately, most of our concepts did work out well (Big relief!). The beauty of this kind of gathering is that everyone, including speakers/facilitators, wanted to help with whatever needed to take place. I think the clarity of vision elevated people&#8217;s involvement at all levels.</p>
<p>Possible things to change:</p>
<p>(1) Create the role of an Idea Camp consultant to help individual participants with their ideas on a one-to-one level.<br />
(2) Consider developing workshops based on levels of experience. I heard some people were lost or bored because the workshops were not necessarily proficiency-based.<br />
(3) Create more pre-camp meetups on line or in person to facilitate conversations leading up to the Camp.</p>
<p>There are a few more, but I don&#8217;t want to give it all away :) (Ideas are brewing&#8230;)</p>
<p><strong>Q: What do you hope others would take away from their time at The Idea Camp?</strong></p>
<p>My primary hope was for people to walk with practical tools and relationships with people in order to move a little closer to implementing their God-given dreams/ideas. I wanted the participated to feel like they actually participated in helping someone else along in their own life journey. Also, I desired people to think &#8220;Kingdom&#8221; before self or even their local church, organization, or business. If we take time to invest in others, the outcome will be far greater than what we could do on our own.</p>
<p><strong>Q: What is next for you?</strong></p>
<p>I have a church to pastor (<a href="http://newhopesouthbay.com" target="_blank">New Hope</a>) and a non-profit organization (<a href="http://just4one.org" target="_blank">JustOne</a>) to help run. I am also working on several grassroots movements (The Freeze Project, One Voice to End Slavery, etc.) that hope to bring practical change and relief to those affected by the injustices poverty and slavery.  In addition, I am working on writing a book about compassionate justice with practical insights into caring for the world.</p>
<p><strong>Q: How can we be praying for you?</strong></p>
<p>Please pray that God will keep me focused on things that matter most to him. I want to embrace fully the world that God so loves. My hope is not to become the next big pastor, activist, or conference-maker. I would rather see all of us move together in his name.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hoping that you&#8217;ll be sure to thank Charles for all that he did to make The Idea Camp a reality and for his selfless service for our benefit. You can find him on twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/charlestlee" target="_blank">@charlestlee</a> &amp; @<a href="http://www.twitter.com/theideacamp" target="_blank">theideacamp</a>; The Idea Camp website: <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">theideacamp.ning.com</a> or via facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41051955597" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=41051955597</a>. Let&#8217;s keep him in our prayers as well.</p>
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<p>After returning home from <a href="http://theideacamp.ning.com" target="_blank">The Idea Camp</a> I was overwhelmed with a lot of thoughts. I felt compelled to share my ideas in a blog post since so many people asked me how it went and what I got out of it. However, so much came about that is going to shape my future that I felt it was best to make multiple posts and share in small snippets.</p>
<p>My first takeaway from The Idea Camp is that when pastors in my generation look at the world and evaluate ministry, I don&#8217;t think we quite get it. Collectively we have lots of theological training, hands-in missionary work, and tons of ministry experience. However, we seem to always scratch our heads (some publicly, but mostly privately) and wonder about our effectiveness. We believe there must be more than this.</p>
<p>I am one of those people that know there must be more than this, yet I know that it isn&#8217;t up to my generation to find the answers. I believe it is up to my generation to build up and encourage future generations and empower them to go out into the world and share their anger at social injustice and their passion for their fellow man. The transition of power from Generation X to Generation Y is going to be a truly amazing sight to see! This new generation truly gets it, but just needs a hand in finding their voice.  The Idea Camp was a way for some Gen Y kids to have that voice heard.</p>
<p>Taking the stage on Saturday morning were two guys: Zach Hunter of <a href="http://www.myspace.com/lc2lc" target="_blank">Loose Change to Loosen Chains</a> and Conner Cress of <a href="http://drytears.org" target="_blank">Dry Tears</a>. These two teenagers shared their hearts and passions for social injustices and were living examples that things can get done even without having resources, experienced leadership, or an office, or even a car. That at the age of 15, someone such as Zach Hunter can be so stirred to take a small action that grew into a huge organic movement of changed lives.</p>
<p>Want to know the most powerful word I received from The Idea Camp? It&#8217;s when I heard Zach Hunter say that <strong>he believed he would see the end of human slavery in the world during his lifetime</strong>.  That is the biggest vision I have ever heard of, yet a vision that already has been put into action by a 15 year old teen that after two years (Zach is now 17) is still being cast to us seasoned older people that didn&#8217;t quite get it. It&#8217;s a dream that hasn&#8217;t died and one that reveals the beautiful hope we can have as we entrust and empower the younger generations to rise up and take a stand in the name of Christ. It is so powerful that I threw out my notes for a message I was giving to a youth group the day after returning from The Idea Camp. At 9:00am Sunday morning I tossed out my notes, prayed for a scripture that would illuminate the cause of social injustice and inspire the teens to take action, and at 10:30am shared my newly-changed heart with a group that has the keys to the future in their hands. I share the video of the message with you below in the hopes that it may speak into your life and give you the hope that the world will be a better place through all that God is doing to raise up a new generation of his people to destroy the works of the enemy and take back what is his.</p>
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<a href="http://vimeo.com/3441441">Dave Ingland shares a message on social justice to a youth group</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1377740">Dave Ingland</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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