Comments on: Joel Osteen…in my opinion http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/ Commentary and discussion ideas on missional church planting, faith, ministry, people, culture and more... Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:39:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Charlotte Conley http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-621 Charlotte Conley Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:13:27 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=790#comment-621 I agree with Dave whole-heartedly on this one. Why is it that so many believers spend so much time criticizing Osteen, when there is a lost and dying world out there? Time is short...I just don't get it! I agree with Dave whole-heartedly on this one. Why is it that so many believers spend so much time criticizing Osteen, when there is a lost and dying world out there? Time is short…I just don’t get it!

]]> By: Don in Texas http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-620 Don in Texas Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:18:59 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=790#comment-620 Dave: What a good heart you have toward your fellow Believer (Osteen). Here are a couple of tid-bits that you might find interesting. Joel went back on Larry King several months later and at his request adressed the question again. Joel stated straight-out that only through Jesus Christ can one have eternal life. He called it the most important tenant of our faith. He has restated that dozens of times since in many other interviews. In fact, recently, he was asked on a national radio program, "Who is going to Hell?" His answer: "Anyone who does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ." I wish people would stop beating him over the head because of that first Larry King interview. It isn't like he denied Christ -- and he certainly hasn't done it three times like Peter did? Also, I think it is important to realize that at the end of every TV program Osteen gives as strong an altar-call to accept Jesus as I've ever seen from any minister. Osteen's invitation to accept Jesus Christ is seen thousands of times each week all over the world. Who else is doing that? In fact, while Joel Osteen is inviting the world to know Jesus Christ, his critics -- guys like Mark Driscol & Paul Washer -- are spending their resources trying to make a name for themselves by attacking him on You Tube. I would bet that Joel Osteen encourages more people to accept Christ as Lord & Savior in a single week than the two of those jokers will in their entire lifetimes. Dave: What a good heart you have toward your fellow Believer (Osteen). Here are a couple of tid-bits that you might find interesting. Joel went back on Larry King several months later and at his request adressed the question again. Joel stated straight-out that only through Jesus Christ can one have eternal life. He called it the most important tenant of our faith. He has restated that dozens of times since in many other interviews. In fact, recently, he was asked on a national radio program, “Who is going to Hell?” His answer: “Anyone who does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ.” I wish people would stop beating him over the head because of that first Larry King interview. It isn’t like he denied Christ — and he certainly hasn’t done it three times like Peter did?

Also, I think it is important to realize that at the end of every TV program Osteen gives as strong an altar-call to accept Jesus as I’ve ever seen from any minister. Osteen’s invitation to accept Jesus Christ is seen thousands of times each week all over the world. Who else is doing that?

In fact, while Joel Osteen is inviting the world to know Jesus Christ, his critics — guys like Mark Driscol & Paul Washer — are spending their resources trying to make a name for themselves by attacking him on You Tube. I would bet that Joel Osteen encourages more people to accept Christ as Lord & Savior in a single week than the two of those jokers will in their entire lifetimes.

]]> By: daveingland http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-619 daveingland Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:19:48 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=790#comment-619 Timothy: Great to see you here...thanks for posting your thoughts! I would agree that in my personal opinion--through how I believe the Word of God to be interpreted--that Pastor Osteen is a little misguided. However, I affirm again that if he does preach that we can only truly know God through the saving grace of Christ, then in essence he is preaching the gospel. It may not cause people to become devoted Christ followers through his messages of God wanting us to live in prosperous conditions, but I do think it will change hearts and cause people to love others more. In reality, I'm kind of on the fringe of Evangelicalism as I seek to do my part in bringing a relevant gospel to a world that doesn't see it that way yet. However, it is not my intention to change the gospel as Christ is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I appreciate your view and thanks for sharing! As the one who first introduced me to Francis Chan, now I think I have to go check out Jason too :) Timothy: Great to see you here…thanks for posting your thoughts! I would agree that in my personal opinion–through how I believe the Word of God to be interpreted–that Pastor Osteen is a little misguided. However, I affirm again that if he does preach that we can only truly know God through the saving grace of Christ, then in essence he is preaching the gospel. It may not cause people to become devoted Christ followers through his messages of God wanting us to live in prosperous conditions, but I do think it will change hearts and cause people to love others more.

In reality, I’m kind of on the fringe of Evangelicalism as I seek to do my part in bringing a relevant gospel to a world that doesn’t see it that way yet. However, it is not my intention to change the gospel as Christ is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

I appreciate your view and thanks for sharing! As the one who first introduced me to Francis Chan, now I think I have to go check out Jason too :)

]]> By: Timothy Lee http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-618 Timothy Lee Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:28:30 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=790#comment-618 Whilst I have a couple of his books and enjoy his 'feel good' ministry, I have to completely disagree with you regarding Joel Osteen. I honestly believe that his message is not the one that will receive favor from Jesus. I won't go as far as to call him a false prophet, just misguided. Mostly, this time last year I was entirely affected by a speaker named Jason Ostrander (head of Youth ministry for the C&MA church) that completely blew my mind. Though Francis Chan has inspired me with his teachings, Ostrander has completely changed my thoughts on theology. Well, that and being at Fuller. Whilst I have a couple of his books and enjoy his ‘feel good’ ministry, I have to completely disagree with you regarding Joel Osteen. I honestly believe that his message is not the one that will receive favor from Jesus. I won’t go as far as to call him a false prophet, just misguided. Mostly, this time last year I was entirely affected by a speaker named Jason Ostrander (head of Youth ministry for the C&MA church) that completely blew my mind. Though Francis Chan has inspired me with his teachings, Ostrander has completely changed my thoughts on theology. Well, that and being at Fuller.

]]> By: daveingland http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-617 daveingland Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:51:37 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=790#comment-617 Michael: Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment. If you ever post your thoughts somewhere, trackback here or email me. I'd like to see your elaboration :) Michael: Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment. If you ever post your thoughts somewhere, trackback here or email me. I’d like to see your elaboration :)

]]> By: Michael http://www.daveingland.com/2009/06/11/joel-osteenin-my-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-616 Michael Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:46:00 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=790#comment-616 Dave, Thank you for writing this i really appreciate it. I have my opinion concerning Joel but i will not put it here. I agree that the Lord will use him to reach people. To me that's what matters most. Are souls being won to Jesus?! Again thank you for what you have written here. It was done very well. Blessings Dave,

Thank you for writing this i really appreciate it. I have my opinion concerning Joel but i will not put it here. I agree that the Lord will use him to reach people. To me that’s what matters most. Are souls being won to Jesus?! Again thank you for what you have written here. It was done very well.

Blessings

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