Comments on: Do you know missional? Would you like to? http://www.daveingland.com/2008/09/02/do-you-know-missional-would-you-like-to/ Commentary and discussion on the missional church, faith, culture, media and more... Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:53:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Missional vs. Mega-church at daveingland.com http://www.daveingland.com/2008/09/02/do-you-know-missional-would-you-like-to/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Missional vs. Mega-church at daveingland.com Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:27:15 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=197#comment-98 [...] Pastor David Meysembourg stated in a comment to one of the previous posts here on the blog about the missional church, “So for those who are already doing church, the real work lies in [...] [...] Pastor David Meysembourg stated in a comment to one of the previous posts here on the blog about the missional church, “So for those who are already doing church, the real work lies in [...]

]]> By: LT http://www.daveingland.com/2008/09/02/do-you-know-missional-would-you-like-to/comment-page-1/#comment-67 LT Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:15:08 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=197#comment-67 David, Thanks for hitting me on my site and giving me some link love too. I'm really enjoying what you've got going on here especially exploring the missional church issues. i've been trying to teach my congregation about it without having to actually use the term missional and much of the rhetoric that is associated with it since it's what seminarian/ministry geeks use. basically, it's a return to basics and discovering a theology that involves risk, love, grace, justice - being a disciple of Christ? over institutional religion which we're so prone to in Asian churches. looking forward to reading more from you. David, Thanks for hitting me on my site and giving me some link love too. I’m really enjoying what you’ve got going on here especially exploring the missional church issues. i’ve been trying to teach my congregation about it without having to actually use the term missional and much of the rhetoric that is associated with it since it’s what seminarian/ministry geeks use. basically, it’s a return to basics and discovering a theology that involves risk, love, grace, justice – being a disciple of Christ? over institutional religion which we’re so prone to in Asian churches.
looking forward to reading more from you.

]]> By: daveingland http://www.daveingland.com/2008/09/02/do-you-know-missional-would-you-like-to/comment-page-1/#comment-63 daveingland Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:55:44 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=197#comment-63 Pastor Meysembourg! Thanks for jumping into the discussion. Your idea of church not being a building, program or event is critical to changing the perception of loving others as Christ calls us to. They say that 10% of the people on a Sunday end up doing 90% of the work of running services. Church is was not intended to be a spectator sport! This is part of the future discussion coming this week on the blog, but as usual, your wisdom is always one step ahead of mine :) I'm looking forward to more of your input when I start outlining some details beginning in the next post. PS. We welcome you at <a href="http://revsacramento.com" rel="nofollow">revolution church sacramento</a> anytime! :) Pastor Meysembourg! Thanks for jumping into the discussion. Your idea of church not being a building, program or event is critical to changing the perception of loving others as Christ calls us to. They say that 10% of the people on a Sunday end up doing 90% of the work of running services. Church is was not intended to be a spectator sport! This is part of the future discussion coming this week on the blog, but as usual, your wisdom is always one step ahead of mine :) I’m looking forward to more of your input when I start outlining some details beginning in the next post.

PS. We welcome you at revolution church sacramento anytime! :)

]]> By: David Meysembourg http://www.daveingland.com/2008/09/02/do-you-know-missional-would-you-like-to/comment-page-1/#comment-61 David Meysembourg Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:00:17 +0000 http://www.daveingland.com/?p=197#comment-61 Dave! Great post, great discussion. There is so much misunderstanding of what missional means. Your list of what missional is not is good, and I agree with all of them. So for those who are already doing church, the real work lies in becoming missional without losing the flock. The difficulty comes in transitioning from a more traditional church (which is many of the things missional is not) to a missional church. Education and training, modeling missional values, discussion, reading, all are an important part of this process. One of the first things we've done is to define "church". Not a building, not program, not an event, but people living God's plan for their lives. Man I love your heart Pastor Ingland. Can I come to your church? David Dave!
Great post, great discussion. There is so much misunderstanding of what missional means. Your list of what missional is not is good, and I agree with all of them.
So for those who are already doing church, the real work lies in becoming missional without losing the flock. The difficulty comes in transitioning from a more traditional church (which is many of the things missional is not) to a missional church. Education and training, modeling missional values, discussion, reading, all are an important part of this process.
One of the first things we’ve done is to define “church”. Not a building, not program, not an event, but people living God’s plan for their lives.
Man I love your heart Pastor Ingland. Can I come to your church?
David

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