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	<title>Comments on: Sometimes pastors just suck!</title>
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		<title>By: daveingland</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>daveingland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor Scott, thanks for stopping by and for your wonderful comments of encouragement! It&#039;s awesome to hear of your passion for focusing on the good news of christ and stripping away all the other stuff that leads to envy and boasting and division. Amen to you sir!

You&#039;re now on our radar and I&#039;ll connect with your website and lift you and your ministry and all of the greater Phoenix area in prayer. We stand alongside you and Oasis Life Church and it is our honor to know such a joyful fellow servant with a kingdom mindset and a vision for unity within the body of Christ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor Scott, thanks for stopping by and for your wonderful comments of encouragement! It&#8217;s awesome to hear of your passion for focusing on the good news of christ and stripping away all the other stuff that leads to envy and boasting and division. Amen to you sir!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re now on our radar and I&#8217;ll connect with your website and lift you and your ministry and all of the greater Phoenix area in prayer. We stand alongside you and Oasis Life Church and it is our honor to know such a joyful fellow servant with a kingdom mindset and a vision for unity within the body of Christ!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Helsel</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Helsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave - Thank you for your post!  I am reminded as is beautifully reflected in &quot;The Shack&quot; of how quickly we judge.  We need to be about stripping away the things we &#039;think&#039; are essential and understand what is &#039;truly&#039; essential.  I ask - does a position, style, theological stance or other preference affect ones salvation? - If it is outside of &quot;the gospel&quot; then it really is not essential.

God created DNA and it spills over into how we do church.  Let&#039;s be secure enough in our own style and DNA that we can support one another - even refer individuals to other churches in our community if the individual would find a better fit there.

Dave - I&#039;ll look forward to seeing how God blesses your plant in N. California.  We are a plant in the desert of AZ  - just outside of the Phoenix Metro area.  We are having a blast - we pray that you too will enjoy the journey!

Blessings - Pastor Scott Helsel, Oasis Life Church, Maricopa, AZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave &#8211; Thank you for your post!  I am reminded as is beautifully reflected in &#8220;The Shack&#8221; of how quickly we judge.  We need to be about stripping away the things we &#8216;think&#8217; are essential and understand what is &#8216;truly&#8217; essential.  I ask &#8211; does a position, style, theological stance or other preference affect ones salvation? &#8211; If it is outside of &#8220;the gospel&#8221; then it really is not essential.</p>
<p>God created DNA and it spills over into how we do church.  Let&#8217;s be secure enough in our own style and DNA that we can support one another &#8211; even refer individuals to other churches in our community if the individual would find a better fit there.</p>
<p>Dave &#8211; I&#8217;ll look forward to seeing how God blesses your plant in N. California.  We are a plant in the desert of AZ  &#8211; just outside of the Phoenix Metro area.  We are having a blast &#8211; we pray that you too will enjoy the journey!</p>
<p>Blessings &#8211; Pastor Scott Helsel, Oasis Life Church, Maricopa, AZ</p>
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		<title>By: daveingland</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>daveingland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pastor Darin! Thanks for the comments and for your prayer. We are so grateful for you joining together with us in unity as we help propel the gospel into the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pastor Darin! Thanks for the comments and for your prayer. We are so grateful for you joining together with us in unity as we help propel the gospel into the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I ran across you on One Prayer and watched your message. Go get em.

I pray that your plant goes well and that you continue to be a revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I ran across you on One Prayer and watched your message. Go get em.</p>
<p>I pray that your plant goes well and that you continue to be a revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: daveingland</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>daveingland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hank! Thanks for stopping by and letting me know you were here :) One Prayer is so amazing that we can connect and feel the prayerful support of so many that want to see a spirit of unity within the body of Christ.

By the way, Perry Noble&#039;s message from the One Prayer series is gonna move you...it&#039;s a strong word from the Lord!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hank! Thanks for stopping by and letting me know you were here :) One Prayer is so amazing that we can connect and feel the prayerful support of so many that want to see a spirit of unity within the body of Christ.</p>
<p>By the way, Perry Noble&#8217;s message from the One Prayer series is gonna move you&#8230;it&#8217;s a strong word from the Lord!</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Osborne</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.  I also found you by way of oneprayer.com.  Our church (Seacoast) is participating in One Prayer.  We had Perry Noble as a guest speaker at Seacoast a while back and I loved his message.  I look forward to his message during the One Prayer series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.  I also found you by way of oneprayer.com.  Our church (Seacoast) is participating in One Prayer.  We had Perry Noble as a guest speaker at Seacoast a while back and I loved his message.  I look forward to his message during the One Prayer series.</p>
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		<title>By: daveingland</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>daveingland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, all the posts show November 6 because that is my birthday! Ha, ha...actually it is 11/06/08 with the &quot;11&quot; being the day and &quot;06&quot; being the month. I think that&#039;s how it is written out in the military or something like that. I&#039;ll have to go into my display settings and see  if I can correct it for us non-military folks :)

Thanks and hope you have a good week as well!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, all the posts show November 6 because that is my birthday! Ha, ha&#8230;actually it is 11/06/08 with the &#8220;11&#8243; being the day and &#8220;06&#8243; being the month. I think that&#8217;s how it is written out in the military or something like that. I&#8217;ll have to go into my display settings and see  if I can correct it for us non-military folks :)</p>
<p>Thanks and hope you have a good week as well!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Counts</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Counts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave for the kind words-
I&#039;m also wondering why my and the above posts are dated Nov 6 2008?...it&#039;s June 11 here in South Carolina  :)
Have a good week
Sandra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave for the kind words-<br />
I&#8217;m also wondering why my and the above posts are dated Nov 6 2008?&#8230;it&#8217;s June 11 here in South Carolina  :)<br />
Have a good week<br />
Sandra</p>
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		<title>By: daveingland</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>daveingland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandra, I can&#039;t believe this blog post made it out to the general public like that! Thank you so much for stopping by and for being a faithful member of NewSpring Church and all that God is doing to reach many through your ministry with the gospel of Christ. 

As for Jeff, I do not know him. Sacramento is still a small town, but our county encompasses about 2.3 million people so there are still a lot of people here I don&#039;t know personally :) Blessings to you as well good and faithful servant of the Lord!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandra, I can&#8217;t believe this blog post made it out to the general public like that! Thank you so much for stopping by and for being a faithful member of NewSpring Church and all that God is doing to reach many through your ministry with the gospel of Christ. </p>
<p>As for Jeff, I do not know him. Sacramento is still a small town, but our county encompasses about 2.3 million people so there are still a lot of people here I don&#8217;t know personally :) Blessings to you as well good and faithful servant of the Lord!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Counts</title>
		<link>http://www.daveingland.com/2008/06/10/sometimes-pastors-just-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Counts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a longtime friend of Perry Noble (Newspring Pastor)and enthusiastic member of Newspring Church- I stumbld across your blog from the Google News function that alerts me when the words  &quot;Newspring Church&quot; appear in a news release or blog.  I will make sure he gets to see a copy of your kind words.  Thanks!! 
God bless you. and your church in Sacramento...
Sandra
P.S. I have a pharmacist colleage in Sacramento-Jeff Jellin- any chance you know him?  I consult with him on a drug therapy newsletter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a longtime friend of Perry Noble (Newspring Pastor)and enthusiastic member of Newspring Church- I stumbld across your blog from the Google News function that alerts me when the words  &#8220;Newspring Church&#8221; appear in a news release or blog.  I will make sure he gets to see a copy of your kind words.  Thanks!!<br />
God bless you. and your church in Sacramento&#8230;<br />
Sandra<br />
P.S. I have a pharmacist colleage in Sacramento-Jeff Jellin- any chance you know him?  I consult with him on a drug therapy newsletter.</p>
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